Part of the reason I don’t begrudge people their religions is that the desire to fill up the gap between the Known and the Unknown is one of the defining characteristics of humans. We, as a species, don’t have ANY of the traditional “natural weapons”; we don’t have claws, or fangs… we have shitty senses, low physical strength, relatively poor balance… hell, we can’t even climb trees like we used to. What I wouldn’t give for a prehensile tail nowadays. No, the only things humans have going for them number three: upright bipedal locomotion, opposable thumbs and a complex frontal lobe. While the first two enable us to use tools, only the last is unique to humans; it is our intelligence that is our primary survival trait. Accordingly, our intelligence should be the facet of ourselves about which we feel the most insecurity… this insecurity should be a driving force towards learning survival lessons from the world around us. And anything that increases our chances of survival should increase our chances of reproducing, which in turn will reinforce the driving behavior in accordance with evolutionary statistics.
SO: humans, being exclusively dependent upon our intellect for survival (at least in hunter-gatherer times), should be accordingly paranoid about anything of which we perceive we are ignorant. To quote super-shady ex-SecDef Donald Rumsfeld:
“As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don’t know
We don’t know.”
Beautiful, eh? Inspired. Eloquent. Mother fuckin’ poetic, even. Honestly, Rumsfeld looks like the kind of person who cheats at strip chess and thinks date rape is cool if you can forge the victim’s signature on a Love Contract… but if we could choose anyone to be the Secretary of Defense, I really, really don’t mind if we pick the guy who’s willing to break the rules to ensure victory. Just don’t play chess with him, you’ll be fine.
You may have noticed I have a propensity to Unnecessarily Capitalize certain Words to add Emphasis. These capitalized words are – within the Chocolate-Factory-esque workings of my mind – sorted into a big bin labeled “Concepts”. There is a difference, in the context of my rambling dissertations, between good and Good, truth and Truth, reason and Reason… and pertinent to THIS article, the concepts Known and Unknown. “Known” (big K) refers to the “known knowns” section: the things that we know we know, such as the chemical composition of capsaicin or how human eyesight works. “Unknown” (big U) refers to the “unknown unknowns” section: the things we don’t know we don’t know, such as a newborn baby’s knowledge of the chemical composition of capsaicin or what a bat’s echolocation sight looks like. The gap between, as mentioned in the first sentence of this article, refers to the “known unknowns”: things we know we do not know, such as the existence or nonexistence of the soul, or Luke Skywalker’s favorite ice cream flavor. It is this space, the gap between the Known and the Unknown, that marks the chosen battlefield of Religion and Science. Kinda like the battle for Minas Tirith, except all the orcs are right-wing zealots, Sauron doesn’t actually exist, the inhabitants of Gondor all have satellite Internet access and espresso machines and they don’t particularly give a shit whether Mordor agrees with them or not. Aren’t metaphors fun?
ANYways: it is this gap between the Known (the realm of experience understood by Science) and the Unknown (that which lies truly outside our scope of comprehension) that our evolved sense of our own intellect finds disconcerting; we worry about the things we know we don’t know because these unknown things could, potentially, cause us harm. For the sake of our discussions, I now choose to designate this “known unknowns” concept with the label “the Uncertain”. It is this fear of the Uncertain that has historically driven people to Religion; Religion provides an answer to these questions – traditionally referred to as a belief – that can soothe the mind’s innate insecurity, but only at the cost of suborning one’s own intellectual integrity. While using beliefs to subdue mental anxieties can be an effective means of instilling an individual or group with confidence, doing so leaves the individual or group unable to engage as effectively with real-world problems involving the area addressed by the belief. For example: the belief that a personal, loving God is looking out for you and guiding your steps can give a person greater confidence in their everyday lives, which can enable them to actually perform better than they may have done in the absence of that confidence… but can also result in mistaking foolhardiness for courage, potentially leading the person into experiencing epic failures in situations where a more rational person (one who knows that only they are responsible for their successes and failures) would have adjusted their choices in a more situationally-appropriate manner. In extreme situations, belief in divine intervention can lead to Superman Syndrome – a general recklessness in everyday actions and interactions due to the belief that Superman/God will always compensate for dangerous situations caused by your recklessness. Wow, I drifted just a bit off-topic there. Recentering.
For people who lack the necessary education or intelligence to learn the scientific reasons behind the Uncertain (or during the vast, vast periods 0f history when Science simply did not know the reasons), Religion provides a plethora of simple answers to questions great and small. When humanity was still developing from tribal social structures into full-blown civilizations, the Uncertain occupied a great deal more territory than it does today; the Uncertain covered such areas as the origin of lightning and rain, why trees and animals grow, and things float or fall. This is in addition to the questions that still occupy people’s minds today, things like the nature (or existence) of an afterlife, where humans came from, and whether life exists (or is even possible) on other planets. Since Religion could provide the answers (or at least an answer) to these questions that Science could not, the Uncertain has always been the realm of Religion and Faith. This is why Religion has had such power throughout the entirety of human civilization; Religion can provide a feeling of security and community by giving the people a shared “answer” to life’s Uncertainties… belief and Faith derive their powers from the shared acceptance of Religion’s explanations of the mysteries of life.
The (perceived) conflict between Religion and Science is, metaphorically, a turf war: as Science brings more and more of life’s questions from the realm of the Uncertain into the realm of the Known, the realm of the Uncertain shrinks. With it shrinks the power of Religion, as the less Religion is needed to explain the mysteries of life, the less Religion becomes necessary in the lives of the people to help overcome the biological fear of the unknown. This impingement of Science upon the traditionally untouchable domain of Religion causes friction between the two philosophies… but it is, for the most part, a unidirectional friction; while Religion perceives its power to be diminished by the efforts of Science, Science does not particularly care about the fate of Religion aside from a sense that Religion is incompatible with reality. Science observes, measures and extrapolates, nothing more… and confidence, in Science, derives only from observations any person of sufficient education can also make within the scope of reality. This is the fundamental difference between Science and Religion; Science’s Truth can be built, in its entirety, from reasoned observation of reality; Religion’s Truth depends absolutely upon the acceptance of the facts presented upon the auspices of Religion itself… upon the acceptance of Religion’s authority.
Thus, Religion’s authority, Religion’s power, derives directly from the size of the realm of Uncertainty. The more Uncertainty exists within a society, the more power the organization of Religion has to wield. As has been previously posited: the odd, reflexive, circular logic of Religion seats the power of Religion upon overcoming fear of Uncertainty through the mass (mob) acceptance of a Truth supplied by Authority. Therefore, the more Uncertainty exists within the peoples’ minds, the more valid Religion’s Authority appears to be… and ,due to the force inherent in any mob, the more valid Authority actually is.
This is the fundamental source of conflict between Religion and Science, the ultimate reason why Religious people actually oppose advances in Science that conflict with the teachings of Religion. Any ground gained by Science (and by extension, Reason) is lost to Religion in the eyes of society… but only so long as society accepts the explanation put forth by Science. This means that, from Religion’s perspective, they can prevent the loss of religious power concurrent with the loss of Uncertainty if Religion can ensure that either A) Religion’s followers choose to accept the teachings of Religion over the explanations of Science (thus choosing the reign of Authority over Reason); B) Religion can undermine its own followers’ intelligence or education to the point that Religion’s followers cannot understand Science’s explanations (forcefully substituting Authority for Reason); or C) manufacturing sufficient Uncertainty that its followers whom can already understand the teachings of Science have an apparently Reasonable alternative… which enables the follower to – seemingly legitimately – choose the Religious answer over the Scientific, essentially extending Religion’s dominion over both the Uncertain AND the Known (making Authority appear Reasonable; also known as pseudoscience).
The enduring strength of Religion in the face of a rapidly shrinking realm of Uncertainty can be derived from one of these three means of subordinating Reason to Authority. ALL Religious people, in order to legitimize their use of Religious reasoning for their everyday actions, have to employ a certain amount of self-imposed blindness related to one of these subordinations. Subordination is necessary AT ALL because Religion is, by definition, derived from the existence of Authority… while Reason is derived from reality itself. Of the two, reality exists regardless of “belief” or “disbelief” in reality; all peoples operate within the scope reality by definition. Conversely, people operate within the scope of Religion by choice; if a person can choose to be Religious or not, then Religion cannot, by definition, apply to all peoples. Authority does not derive from reality; it derives from peoples’ acceptance of Authority. As such, rules affecting the entirety of society can only be legitimately derived from the realm of the Known, which affects all of society. Only people choosing to willingly include themselves within the bounds of Religion can be legitimately affected by that Religion’s rules.
So here I attempt to draw this dissertation to a close: I understand and accept that there exist in this world people who prefer Religion to Science because they derive more confidence, more strength, from Religion; in particular, Religious people prefer the conclusions drawn by Authority (and the force of those conclusions) to those merely implied by Science. This is generally due to one (or more) specific aspects of the Religious person’s personality: either they A) prefer the simple answers of Religion and are too lazy, complacent or content to look further (thus choosing the reign of Authority over Reason); B) lack the ability to choose anything other than the simple answers they are given (Religion) since they cannot comprehend the answers of Science (Authority having been forcefully substituted for Reason); or C) are in a position to directly benefit from the mob force behind Religious conclusions and attempt to bolster that force via aggressive or Reasonable conversion (perpetrating B upon others, cultivating A amongst the Faithful, and being guilty of making Authority appear Reasonable themselves).
But regardless of a person’s reasons for choosing or being Religious, I acknowledge that Religion can have a positive influence upon peoples’ lives. I feel that people who practice their religion in a benign way deserve the strength and confidence with which Religion can, for whatever reason, provide them. For these people, I am happy that Religion can enable them to do good in society. My problem with Religion arises when it is used for things that are blatantly evil (Evil) when considered from a Reasonable perspective. If people accept the rule of Authority, then they can be considered justified in perpetrating Evil acts endorsed by their Religion so long as they apply those acts only within their religion’s community. But for people NOT within the Religious community, the rule of Reason holds true, and those acts which appear Evil (such as the outlawing of arbitrary objects, the insistence upon subordination of women, and the persecution of both homosexuality and people of other religions) actually are Evil, and thus have no place becoming laws of society in general.
In final conclusion (I promise): since so much conflict exists between the fundamental natures of Religion and Science exists, I would prefer that people derive their strength and self-assurance in the face of the Uncertain from Reason, as doing so gives a much, much better chance that person will not perpetrate Evil… even with good Religious intent. It is definately harder to adopt a Reason-based morality and understanding of reality than it is to adopt a Religious one… but again: the benefit of doing so is being able to choose what is both Correct and Right, instead of what is merely Correct. If you are a Religious person and have done things that are Good even in the eyes of your Reasonable friends, then I applaud you… but wish to make you aware that just as much Good can be done from a Reasonable foundation… more efficiently, too. And for those of you who live Reasonable lives already, and who probably read my articled for no better reason than to confirm and strengthen your own convictions, I leave you with this warning reminder of the First Rule of Sentience: never discount the possibility that you could be completely fucking wrong.
Comma Bitches.
Something tells me Religion should be allowed into the class of “Things that never die” because I’m sure it’s going to be around longer than anything else around here…. Even Taxes, when he gets kicked out around 3200…
To draw a distinction between religion and Religion: religion (little r) is the practice; Religion (big R) is the philosophy. You are right that Religion will last forever, even if religion goes away… there will always be the philosophy of “might makes right” in the backs of the minds of even the most gentle of peoples… probably because it can always be true. The philosophy of Religion – that there exists a Truth and a Force outside of observable reality that supersedes even rational thought – is just way too useful a tool to the right kind of con man.
Religion will never die because it’s the easy way out. Given that people are lazy (I THINK I’m ok on this postulate): would they rather invest time and money building up the intelligence and degree status necessary to understand the way the universe works; or would they rather just say “a wizard did it” and fuck off to the bar? I’ll give you a hint: you have to give a shit about your fellow man to even consider pursuing option 1.
Drawing a distiction between ‘religion’ and ‘Religion’ does not actually separate practice from philosophy, it is just the same self-feeding loop of delusion. Furthermore, Religion will not ‘last forever’, it requires a mind to even exist…and therein doth lay the absurdity of using the word ‘truth’ and religion in the same sentence. The former is discovered, the latter created…the former must continually be tested, the latter even more so…lest we allow its philosophy to become the only practice.
Hi! You asked me to respond from Huffington Post so here I am.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/victor-stenger/science-is-not-based-on-f_b_676016.html
Personally I try to separate understanding why people are religious, which is mostly debated from a personal perspective like belief in God or not, and how religious manifests itself, organized religion.
I’d highly recommend a book by Steven Pinker, “The Blank Slate, the Modern Denial of Human Nature”.
http://www.amazon.com/Blank-Slate-Modern-Denial-Nature/dp/0142003344/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1281449254&sr=8-1
When I was age fourteen I read the Bible cover-to-cover one summer as I was bored and was starting my life long journey of trying to understand the world around me. I was raised in the midwest, Indiana, in a religious family with no immediate skeptics. I had no influence to reject the religion I was raised with at all. Just Christians who doubted God, not rejected.
My reaction to the Bible was that I was completely appalled and I immediately rejected it as a bad case of fiction. It was the worst piece of crap I had ever read and I immediately declared it evil. So compelling were my strong feelings that I actually started a journal for one month of everything wrong I saw with that book. Little did I know at the time that all of my arguments were already ancient history. Once I started investigating I stopped my journal. Seriously, I was that naive about skeptics that I thought I had discovered something new.
From that point I started asking why was I different? Why are so many caught up in a line of BS that is so, so, so poorly written. Why was I able to see clearly when it is obvious that the norm is for people to adopt the religion. Why was I so different from everyone in my family?
I have since come to identify certain emotional markers that I feel are indicative of what divides the believers in the unbelievers. I believe the emotional divide is the key, not logical arguments about reality or God.
Here are the important markers:
1.) Atheists in Foxholes. Emotionally religious folks cannot conceive of an atheist.
2.) I don’t know. Religious folk need answers. It is unacceptable for them to not have an answer. This is why “faith” is so compelling. Faith is the bucket from which all answers where none exist are derived. As you point out fear, especially fear of death, is a compelling emotion for must having answers. Just as religious folk cannot conceive of atheists in foxholes, they cannot conceive of people at peace with “I don’t know”.
3.) Low self-esteem. This is not to be confused with humility. I once heard a great couple of lines from a movie that go, “God is man’s attempt to alienate himself from himself. God is perfect, man is imperfect.” Like pieces of a puzzle, God has all the curves that fit someone’s personal defects. If someone wants to believe something exists that is the opposite of what they hate about themselves or compensates for personal short-comings they oft time attribute this to God.
Let’s just leave it at those three emotional states for now.
Organized Religion and science battle it out in our hearts for all the states listed above. However, science is most compelling with items 2.. In the case of the second item, the more science answers certain fundamental questions then the more people are comfortable with living with “I don’t know” for others. Thus religion in first world countries is less compelling. In fact Christianity supplanted polytheism for much the same reason. One of the principle tenets of Christianity is that God has withdrawn from man’s affairs and aside from an occasional miracle everything around us has some compelling natural argument. This was enough historically for most people to abandon polytheism.
Item three is the tricky one. People with low self-esteem over compensate by believing in the ultimate compensation is on their side: someone all knowing and all powerful.
Low self esteem + God = over compensation.
This is what manifests itself with uneducated people dissing science and rejecting outright reason. This is also where organized religion preys upon its flock. When God is wound tightly with one’s identity then such a person can be driven to anything: murder, voting Republican, etc.
I heard Sam Harris discussing atheism on a talk show once. A caller asked him the question, “even if everything you say is true, I accept it, what am I suppose to do with my relationship with Jesus?”
People who begin life with a low self-esteem and build that esteem up with a “relationship with a compensating all powerful, all knowing God” are impossible to change or reason with. Further, they no longer have a low self-esteem. Unwinding their religion would crush their personal identity.
These are just my personal take on reality and are by no means scientific. Although they have been informed by opinions of many others who have evidence.
The point is that science and religion have a battlefield in our hearts. Understanding that battlefield is key to understanding when and how to argue religion vs science.
“It is definately harder to adopt a Reason-based morality and understanding of reality than it is to adopt a Religious one… but again: the benefit of doing so is being able to choose what is both Correct and Right, instead of what is merely Correct.”
It is not about being correct. It is about identity. Every young person goes through an identity crisis as they become aware. Religion preys on this crisis and provides people with emotional cover of an all powerful God which would destroy their identity if that God were ever removed. Once religion has people hooked in such a fashion, it is nigh impossible to remove it. Debating reason is pointless. You’d have to replace their identity and most people are not willing to give up something artificial they’ve adopted to compensate self-esteem.
Just one other thought.
When thinking about people unbecoming religious, it is important to think about when people become religious.
1.) I forget the exact number, but something like 80-90 percent of religious people retain the religion of their childhood. Religion snags people when they are most impressionable, not the most reasonable. Impressionable = forming identity.
2.) Moments of identity crisis. Will Chelsea Clinton become Jewish now? Marriage is an identity changer and conveniently religion is on-the-spot. Religious marriage requiring a spouse adopt the religion? Death? When someone loses a loved one, they have lost part of their identity. Religion is their to replace it. Of course death-bed conversions are the ultimate identity crisis: one is no longer going to exist at all.
People never adopt religion in moments of reason. Although I think there is a modern phenomena where people come to grips with, become aware of, religion manipulating their identity, that pisses them off, and they reject religion.
People adopt religion not in moments of correctness with a desire to be right, but in moments of identity formulation. Once such adoption takes place, reason becomes rationalization.
@Glenn: thanks much, and heartily agreed. Indeed, “drawing a distinction” is only my personal tool for organizing my thoughts… for the religious, the philosophy assumes the practice, and it is very much a delusion to think otherwise. However, while I see it possible that a day may come to pass where religion is no longer practiced, I think the philosophy of Religion – that Authority can supplant Reason – will survive so long as one human looks upon another with avarice. While that is not necessarily “forever” in the absolute, it’s the practical “forever” for our species. As far as truth… there is one for Religion, and one for reality. The nice thing about Religion’s truth is that it need not live up to any standard but that of Religion itself, and so is unassailable by Science. The nice thing about the advance of Science is that it shall continue of its own accord so long as people remain inquisitive; Religion must be constantly defended and distributed, lest people allow Reality to get in the way.
@Mybrid: well put. Religion (and religion) tends to provide a means to acquiesce to the social norm that Religion itself creates… it creates a mold, a slot into which a person can fit themselves and get that warm, confident feeling of belonging… but there’s nothing that says people couldn’t use Science the same way. It would take society as a whole placing actual value upon rational thinking and decision-making, much as value is placed today upon Religious thinking and decision-making by Religious people… and censure placed upon ALL people who do not themselves go along with preferring Religious thought. Norm and metanorm. The big question is: would the *means* by which we could create a societal environment conducive to the elevation of Rational thought actually violate the integrity of Rational thought?